10. Part 1 of 2 Behind the Scenes of Content Creation and the OnlyFans Phenomenon

When life threw a global pandemic curveball, Clark Styles, an everyday content creator, hit it out of the park by venturing into the world of OnlyFans and online sex work. With candid revelations, Clark walks us through her remarkable journey, one that her husband not only endorses but actively supports. Our discussion uncovers the realities of navigating financial surprises, establishing content boundaries, and finding success by leveraging personal strengths within a highly competitive market. Clark's story is a masterclass in transforming adversity into opportunity, making strategic investments, and the power of mentorship that propelled her earnings to new heights.

Step into the arena of online sex work where misconceptions are as common as the content itself. Clark, our guide, dispels myths and sheds light on the economics of adult entertainment, highlighting how content explicitness can directly influence income. We explore the community's culture of collaboration, where strategic partnerships and content creation meet-ups lead to synergistic successes. Listen as Clark breaks down her pricing strategies, the involvement of her husband in her professional pursuits, and the logistics behind these creative alliances. This episode peels back the layers of an industry often shrouded in mystery and gives you an insider's perspective.

Weaving into the more personal threads of the industry, Clark lays bare the pressures of cosmetic surgery and the struggle to maintain authenticity. She and her friend Kaylee navigate the demanding requests for custom videos, sharing the financial upsides and the challenges imposed by platform regulations. Moving beyond the glitz, we tackle the concept of 'shelf life', future business plans, and tough financial realities, including the complexities of tax management. Clark's story is a raw and real narrative that explores the labyrinth of personal and professional dynamics in the digital age of entrepreneurship. Join us for an episode that promises to enlighten, engage, and maybe even inspire your next move.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:04

Welcome to Small Town, big Mouths podcast, where our three hosts will be unraveling tales about dating and life in general that will have you laughing, nodding your head and even cringing in sympathy. So sit back, buckle up and get ready for the ride.

Speaker 2: 0:19

Hi, this is Amber. You're one and only.

Speaker 3: 0:22

Hey there, everyone, welcome back. This is Misty aka.

Speaker 4: 0:25

Dolce, and this is Nikki, your resident bartender. So today we have a guest with us. Her name is Clark Styles and she has an OnlyFans page. So I know you guys have all been wanting to know about the OnlyFans and we've had questions and we were all like, how can we make money on it? Like we've just we've been biting at the fucking bit to have you here.

Speaker 5: 0:49

It is the most interesting thing that everybody wants to know about, but they're embarrassed to ask. So here we go, let's answer the questions.

Speaker 2: 0:55

I'm gonna start with a question. Can you share a bit about yourself and how you got started on OnlyFans?

Speaker 5: 1:01

Yes. So most common question I get is how did you get started and is your husband okay with it? So I've been married for 13 years and it was 2021. My husband comes up to me and he's like hey, look at these girls on Twitter, Look at all the followers that they have. They are making so much money on this platform. On OF, there's a site called fansly. I mean you can make money in any which way, kind of just doing sex work. But he was like you look just like them, If not better. You should be doing this. Like, let's get this started for you. I am not a shy person so I'm like all right, that sounds good to me, so that's a big deal and that was your motivation and it was like during COVID.

Speaker 3: 1:43

So like yeah like everybody's like getting online and trying to do something different.

Speaker 5: 1:47

Yeah, it blew up during COVID. So most of the girls that I have become friends with made it big in 2019 and 2020, when everybody was freaked out and didn't have anything to do. All these women ended up going to this site and making easy money back then, because not a lot of people were doing it. Yeah, so I got in, I'd say right after the perfect time. I rode the coattails a lot of those women. So, my husband, I said you set it all up for me. I don't want to. I don't want to think about it, I don't want to talk to the guys. You have enough pictures of me in your phone. I'm sure you can make it work. If you need to snap some pictures of me, that's fine, you do it. Come up with a name for me, make my Twitter, make my Instagrams. You're going to run everything and he's like, okay.

Speaker 5: 2:32

And then the next thing he comes up to me and I like it Okay, I'm done, I have it all set up Like, oh, this is real. Okay, and he did a great job with it and as the months started rolling on, I was like we're not going to make any money. But he started showing me my income on the page. One day I looked and there was 300 bucks there from wait how long?

Speaker 5: 2:57

This was like a month or two in and I made $300. And I was like holy shit, what are you doing? And he's like I just, you know, put some pictures up there and I get your social media is going $300. I'm like, ooh okay. Well, if you can passively make $300 and you're a man running my stuff, I wonder what I could do if I take over and I put my personality into it and I take, I really take it.

Speaker 3: 3:22

Okay, rewind with that $300 because he started it. What types of? Because you said you have photos on your phone. Yeah, what types of photos did he do he's?

Speaker 5: 3:32

a big, originally his thing, he is a warrior. He likes to take pictures of me when anytime I have my shirt off, he just snap, snap snap, just for his own personal.

Speaker 3: 3:42

So was it mainly topless, oh yeah.

Speaker 5: 3:44

Yeah, so I didn't. I told him when I first started I don't want to do anything past that. I, that is my, my main Richter scale, my nipples can show other than that. It's a big no for me. And he's like, okay, I can respect that and was head out, yeah, so I've always been face full. So there is face less and there's face full. My money is in my face. Let's be honest, I have a really good face compared to the rest of my mom bod. So I have a mom bod, but a really great face. A lot of these women have faces that are sixes, but bodies that are 10s, and mine was the reverse. So I led with that and it worked. So when he was just posting the pictures that he had in his phone, I started to think wait, wait wait, wait, there's no video.

Speaker 4: 4:28

There wasn't any video at that point.

Speaker 5: 4:30

Okay, yeah, and he had some stuff that he had put in his phone and he's like ooh, should I put this up? I'm like, I don't know, I'm not there yet. I can't. I'm not okay with it, just of our own personal archive over the past decade of us being together.

Speaker 5: 4:44

And he's just, he loves filming. So once I took over, I had made some friends through social media of amazing women who were millionaires and for some reason took me under their wing. I don't know why they shouldn't have. They gave me the keys to their kingdoms, told me what I needed to be doing to run a successful page, and one of the main parts was you get in what you what you get it put in what you get out, or whatever.

Speaker 4: 5:11

that means that you know what I mean get out what you put in you, get out what you put in.

Speaker 5: 5:14

So if you're only posting a couple of times a day on social media, you're not going to be rolling. You have to do four to five times posting on Instagram, on Twitter, on TikTok. You have to blow your TikTok up and there was a lot of homework that I had to figure out before you even get people to go to OF. So it's this whole media circus of trying to figure all of that out.

Speaker 3: 5:34

Which we're in that right now with our podcast, to be real. Yeah, so we get it. Yeah, it's a trip, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5: 5:38

Yeah, and it's frustrating, but sex just sells. So I'm able to go on social media and post pictures of my cleavage and then like boom. I have 60,000 followers on Instagram just from like posting sexy pics. Yeah, Well, I've gone through probably 50 Instagram accounts because they keep. They ban you If they know that you are soliciting sex, which you have, and people turn you in.

Speaker 3: 6:02

They have that ability to yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5: 6:04

You can get reported whether it's guys who get frustrated that I don't give them things for free, or other women that are jealous.

Speaker 3: 6:10

Yeah, as it happens, girlfriends, wives we, so you lose those followers though, right, oh yeah.

Speaker 5: 6:15

They're gone and then you start over. It's, it's. You have to grieve it. Every time you lose an account, you sit for a day or two and grieve it and then you pick up and start all over again. But you make friends with the other girls, so they post you and it's a really good community. Actually it's a very tight knit, amazing community, community of women, because we all very intimately know each other for this weird reason but I've never met these people in person, but I've like seen their buttholes, so it's the weirdest yeah.

Speaker 3: 6:46

I'm only getting a taste of it because I watched the Real Housewives of Miami and Larsa Pippin. She's kind of like, yeah, so I I'm just, I'm just learning about it. You know what I?

Speaker 2: 6:57

mean, yeah, I know it's been out there for for a minute, but mainly it's men. Women need to stick together and so, even though it's only fans, it's something you guys share together, so it's it brings you together and you're like let me help another woman be successful.

Speaker 4: 7:11

Yeah, but that's super interesting too, because, like, how many women are jealous and spiteful and all these things and don't root for other women? And here's this group of women that are I don't want to say like sex workers.

Speaker 5: 7:24

But I mean but yes, no right, and that's fair, that's a fair thing to say we are supporting each other online sex workers is what we say we are. That's true. We can't say that when we go and start our LLCs or sole proprietorships, because a lot of banks won't work with us because of your model. I am technically. What did I put on my, my business? I think I'm a content creator and advocate of entrepreneurship, or whatever.

Speaker 2: 7:51

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 7:52

Try to track that down, bitches. Which is just, it's such a double standard because they're just shitting on women.

Speaker 1: 8:02

That's it.

Speaker 5: 8:03

But I just do it online. It's a it's a confusing thing because a lot of the time when you say the word sex work, you think that we're out there prostituting and escorting and I will never physically see or touch any of these men ever.

Speaker 2: 8:17

Right, it's not, they're paying you.

Speaker 5: 8:19

They're paying me a lot of money.

Speaker 2: 8:21

So how do you decide on the content?

Speaker 5: 8:24

It's just kind of what I want to put out. I mean, like I started to say that I had said I was never going to do anything more than my nips. Well, you realize very quickly, the more you show, the more you make, and so I was like, ah, you, just as, like being a nurse or being involved in like a doctor, you just get used to seeing blood and shit everywhere. It's the same kind of thing. You become desensitized, right.

Speaker 5: 8:48

Yeah, so as as the months were going on and I'm making good friends with these women who are making a hundred thousand to $200,000 a month. They're telling me you're missing out here. They're like you really don't want to show that Plus, like I think you need to. You want to make good money, you need to show more. I'm like okay, I can get comfortable with that. So I kind of crawled my way into it because my friends were just like you're stupid, you're already here. Yeah, you're stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. Girl, like get, get together.

Speaker 4: 9:20

Well, and I also think it's important to. I don't. I don't know if I can say this, but you can cut it out if I can. Clark is Armenian and we like our money.

Speaker 5: 9:31

Yes, everyone knows I'm Armenian. It's one of my high selling points. I am a milf, so I have three kids. That's my main thing. I'm a milf with a mom bod. I have olive toned skin, being Armenian, so I have a few of those things.

Speaker 1: 9:43

Beautiful eyes.

Speaker 4: 9:44

My eyes are my, my go-to Yep, my exotic look, I'm half Armenian, so that's why I say about the money, like we like our money.

Speaker 5: 9:51

Yeah, I'm a hustler.

Speaker 4: 9:52

Yeah, we're hustlers, like when she told me she was doing this, I was like OK, I mean, I don't think I was shocked by it at all.

Speaker 5: 10:01

My personality goes along with it. Once you get to know me like oh yeah, all right, and your husband too, like you know. Yeah, especially.

Speaker 4: 10:08

Now are there styles, that's crazy.

Speaker 5: 10:09

Is it just women? There are a few male creators, but I don't follow any of them. I'm not sure what kind of content they put out. I'm sure the ones that are the good creators are the ones with amazing bodies who have big old dicks and they get together with other creators and they help with their content. That's all I could see. I've had a couple guys. Most annoying thing is when a guy reaches out to me on Snapchat or whatever and they start first of all asking for my content and I give them my pricing, which is very high. They're like ooh, maybe I should start an OnlyFans. I'm like oh, shut up, no one wants to see your mediocre dick. Like you live in fucking Arkansas, no one cares about you.

Speaker 3: 10:50

Right, ok, so what do you charge? Because I've heard of some of the price points from reality stars, because they're talking about it right now. So where are you at?

Speaker 5: 10:58

It's all different. So I have two pages. My main OF is $10 a month and that is I call it ludes and nudes, so you're not going to be seeing anything outlandish, but I am naked on my $10 page. Then I have my All Access page. That's $50 a month and I post actual legit porn on that page. So they can pay $50 a month and get all of it, or they can pay $10 a month and then they still they bitch, no matter what. Boys bitch all the time.

Speaker 3: 11:26

So wait, your porn is OK. Like it's a video, I mean porn is porn.

Speaker 5: 11:32

It's real porn. So legit real porn, but you're not with a dude.

Speaker 3: 11:36

I'm with my husband. Oh, so he's on it too. Ok, I didn't know this.

Speaker 5: 11:40

Yeah, so I do solo stuff, I do videos with my husband and then we go on these things called collabs, collaborations, where a lot of us creators and models get together with other similar stats models. So I currently am the top 0.4% worldwide on the page. So that means anybody else who's under, we say under 1%, the top under 1%, we all get together. So that's to say I'm not going to meet up with a girl who's 5% because that's not beneficial for me, because she doesn't have the amount of followers I do, not making the amount of money I do. So we stick together just kind of in our levels. We get together. We shoot a ton of content, whether it's social media stuff Some people are the girls are comfortable shooting actual porn, some don't want to. It's whatever you're comfortable with.

Speaker 3: 12:34

Wait, where do you get together at All different places? Ok, it's like a hotel, like a hotel All different.

Speaker 5: 12:38

So we usually split up Airbnb's, so we usually do one a quarter. Last year we went to, we did Reno July 22, we did Reno and we got a couple of beautiful Airbnb's in state in Reno and we all choose one of the houses to shoot at per day and anybody can kind of come in and come out and do whatever they want.

Speaker 3: 12:58

This could be happening in my area. It's really fun. I wouldn't even know it.

Speaker 5: 13:02

And then we did New Orleans in January of last year, then we did Nashville in April of last year, we did Denver right after that, in August, and we've taken a little break since then. But then I have Miami coming in April, so we'll go and do Miami.

Speaker 2: 13:20

So just know, when you're staying at Airbnb's, you don't know what's been going on in there.

Speaker 5: 13:23

I know exactly. We're pretty clean, Like we're all grown-ups, which is nice, we're all.

Speaker 3: 13:30

So who's shooting it?

Speaker 5: 13:31

Whoever's available. So if my husband's not in a scene, he'll shoot it, he'll take my phone or whoever else's phone.

Speaker 3: 13:36

It's just with a phone, just like, yeah, with iPhones.

Speaker 5: 13:40

There's been a couple of times when we were in Reno we had a professional videographer. It was pretty cool and we were on a boat and we did a few scenes on a boat and he had a drone. It was really cool. But that's not typical. Usually it's just all of us getting together and whoever's boyfriend or husband is sitting on the couch. We're like, hey, get up here really quick, I need a shooter. Oh my god.

Speaker 3: 13:58

I bet he's so excited.

Speaker 5: 14:00

Oh these, boys are so lucky.

Speaker 2: 14:02

Oh my god.

Speaker 5: 14:03

How do you get in?

Speaker 2: 14:04

the mood, because you're not always sexually in the mood, but we are women honey, we can fake it.

Speaker 5: 14:10

We are women, I fake it. She's not fake it, but it's also fun. It's just so unique and everybody's laughing and it's all these girls who are of like mind. So you kind of just get to put your guard down and be yourself when this whole type of thing, usually I keep it a secret because it really freaks people out. So there's not a lot of women that can be sitting at my kitchen table and me talk about my porn that I do. So when you get around these people, everybody goes a little bit crazy because we're so excited to be around people in our industry who we can say anything and no one's going to judge us. It's really fun. So, and alcohol too.

Speaker 2: 14:49

Lots of it, I'm sure, lots of alcohol. Yeah, oh yeah, Cheers, cheers.

Speaker 3: 14:53

This is going to be our Valentine's edition. This is perfect.

Speaker 2: 14:57

So, and speaking of Valentine's, nikki made a shooter, I did it's called Cupid's Kiss.

Speaker 4: 15:04

It's delicious. There will be pictures of it on our. No Pictures of Clark Styles, but there will be pictures of we charge.

Speaker 3: 15:11

Well, unless you pay.

Speaker 1: 15:12

Yeah, you can go to Clark Styles only fans and you can pay.

Speaker 4: 15:15

Yes, we have and have pictures of what was in it. It's Malibu peach schnapps, cranberry shaken. It's normally in a martini glass, but I went all over God's green earth today looking for martini glasses, so we're drinking out of stimulus wine glasses here. But it's a good little fruity cocktail for it's very good For for Valentine's.

Speaker 2: 15:35

Day For sipping baby.

Speaker 4: 15:35

Yeah. And it's pinkish sort of.

Speaker 5: 15:38

I don't know.

Speaker 4: 15:38

It's got cranberry juice in it, so it's a little bit and.

Speaker 5: 15:40

I have a suggestion for all the ladies out there listening. The best gift you could ever give your significant other for Valentine's Day is a Boudoir photo shoot. Yes, I've done one before, actually, and a lot of women are terrified to do it, but usually the photographers make you feel so good and they take pictures of your perfect angles. Oh my gosh, do it for yourselves.

Speaker 2: 16:01

Do it for yourselves, I did it for myself and it felt really good and kind of empowering to do it, it was going into it, I was like what am I doing?

Speaker 2: 16:10

Like it's kind of weird. But like, once I got there I didn't have a drink beforehand either Totally sober, and it was nice. It felt good as a woman, you know. It was like all about me and different outfits and I did it for myself. I have the photos for it. Who's the photographer, do you remember? I don't. I think it was like all things Boudoir. Ok, yeah, was it here? Yeah, it was here.

Speaker 4: 16:34

There's a lot of really good, amber used to live in another town, ok.

Speaker 5: 16:36

Yeah, oh man, it's great.

Speaker 3: 16:38

That's the best possible I haven't done one, but that's something I could put Like, because I turned 50 this year. I should do it at age 50. Yeah, you should.

Speaker 2: 16:47

Because you went together.

Speaker 5: 16:49

Only guess, here we come I've done those I've partnered up with Gull.

Speaker 4: 16:53

Ok, my fucking goal was to be in a fitness competition and you bitches over here talking about fucking Boudoir photos.

Speaker 2: 17:01

I'm like you, like it bent over, like that.

Speaker 5: 17:04

It's great, they're magic. The photographers always tell you OK, this is going to hurt, but arch your back as much as you can until you're about to cry, and I'm going to get these shots and then you can relax and I'll tell you when. And you think this is going to look so stupid, right? And they show you and you're like what is that? Yeah, my butt's not that big and it looks so good All popped up and it looks so smooth.

Speaker 2: 17:26

That's funny.

Speaker 4: 17:27

My aunt used to work for a place. It's here, well, it's now. It's a. It's a restaurant on Clovis Avenue. It's a. They have an outdoor area where you can play games outdoors. But it used to be a photo studio and downstairs was a salon. My aunt worked in the salon and the gentleman did the Boudoir scenes upstairs and out back. He did, like nature, the like you would go there and get your high school photos.

Speaker 3: 17:52

No, I know yeah.

Speaker 4: 17:53

And the moms were upstairs getting their fucking Boudoir photos.

Speaker 2: 17:57

How do you actually say that Boudoir, boudoir?

Speaker 3: 17:59

Oh, I don't know, boudoir, I'm like Boudoir, I actually have somebody that I follow because I thought about doing it. They are expensive, though.

Speaker 5: 18:09

Yes, they are very expensive.

Speaker 2: 18:11

I want a free photo shoot which included some pictures, and you got to go on. They sell you some right, which is fine. I didn't buy the whole book because that would have been like $1,500.

Speaker 5: 18:20

Yeah, they charge a lot for the books.

Speaker 2: 18:22

So I just did some pictures that I really liked. I think you should do it.

Speaker 3: 18:26

Misty.

Speaker 2: 18:26

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 18:27

Yeah, I mean it'd be nice if I had somebody to give them to a bit.

Speaker 2: 18:31

But do it for yourself, like, honestly, I did it right after COVID, obviously.

Speaker 4: 18:35

If I get really old. I feel like one of the housewives had like pictures of themselves above their face.

Speaker 3: 18:39

Dude them and their pictures of themselves. Fuck, I can't do that shit.

Speaker 4: 18:43

We go to Misty's house or a picture ever with a fucking fur on it, it's all in the kitchen. Yeah, it's kind of like back in the days.

Speaker 5: 18:49

Do you guys want?

Speaker 4: 18:49

breakfast.

Speaker 3: 18:50

You know what I mean. Hey, I paid a lot for these babies. I should show them off.

Speaker 5: 18:55

That's exactly it. What are you doing? I don't waste them, wow.

Speaker 2: 18:59

Next question. Yeah, next question I this is kind of because you said that about boobs have you, since you've started, only fans? Have you done any surgeries? I have not.

Speaker 5: 19:09

It is really hard not to. Really, I am all natural. I try to put that everywhere because it's it's so rare, right? That a woman of my age I'm 36 hasn't had any kind of augmentation being in the industry, so I plaster it everywhere. I'm not happy about it. What I love? A new set of tits, the fuck. Yes, I want a perfect set of boobs, like all of my friends have. It's really rough. And then they go and they get lipo instead of working their fat off and they look amazing. And what stopped you from?

Speaker 4: 19:39

doing these things my husband he doesn't want me to.

Speaker 3: 19:42

Well, and I think you have a following for this rising.

Speaker 2: 19:45

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 19:45

So it's your content is this yeah, it would change.

Speaker 5: 19:50

I don't think it would get worse. I think honestly. I think if I got my boobs done, it would only help my business. But I'm just not there yet. I told myself if I'm, if I'm still wanting them when I'm 40, I will gift them to myself when I'm 40.

Speaker 5: 20:05

They look fine and everybody mentions oh no, they look great and you can't even tell you breastfed three kids for like eight years. It's fine, I didn't know I'm normal, it was. It was. I was like, how about teeth? It was one year each, but it's. It's really hard not to compare myself. I really want cosmetic surgery. Really bad. I'm trying to just push it out of my mind as much as I can. And it's all because I'm comparing myself to 40 is a good year.

Speaker 4: 20:31

Yeah, but you can't compare yourself to these other people.

Speaker 5: 20:33

It's so hard yeah.

Speaker 3: 20:34

So, we all do it. No, we all do do it.

Speaker 4: 20:37

But like I have never. I'm 52 years old and I've never had any cosmetic surgery but I feel like and I have been with dudes that have told me that I have boobs of like a 30 year old.

Speaker 5: 20:46

Amazing.

Speaker 4: 20:47

Yeah, but I wear a bra all the time. You don't ever catch me without a fucking bra, and okay, like so my boobs haven't had a chance to like hang down to my fucking.

Speaker 3: 20:55

Yeah, that is. What's nice about my implants is that and I've had two sets I don't have to wear bras, right, ever since I got them done after the kids, right, right, because that was the thing. That's why I did it, because I hate bras.

Speaker 2: 21:06

You know what I mean? Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4: 21:08

That's the only reason I want to.

Speaker 3: 21:09

Yeah, see me too.

Speaker 4: 21:10

But the thing of it is is like I want to sit right.

Speaker 3: 21:13

Yeah, I want them to do that too, but eventually they don't though, because they don't wear bra, they gravity takes exactly and they're heavy as shit. Yeah, see, I just and.

Speaker 4: 21:23

I already wear like a 36 double D. So like to me I feel like okay, that's big enough already, like I'm okay and I would have to take off work, which is going to pay for this.

Speaker 1: 21:34

You know what I mean. So when?

Speaker 4: 21:35

I'm not working. Who the fuck's paying my bills?

Speaker 5: 21:37

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the thing with my sugar daddy, with my industry All of that's a write off, right? So these girls are going and getting the air sculpting done and the lipo and the BBLs and all that stuff, and it's all written off.

Speaker 3: 21:49

But how is it a write off Cause you just got done saying you can't do that as your LLC, right?

Speaker 5: 21:55

Because they consider them. We find loopholes everywhere. You get a good. You get a good CPA who's just crooked enough to make sure that they can weave the reasons. But a lot of these girls, their LLCs are under them, modeling and they are, so yours is under modeling and that's where it gets.

Speaker 1: 22:11

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 22:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:16

It's called creative accounting.

Speaker 5: 22:17

Creative accounting, yeah, and I have a really amazing CPA who blesses heart. He's an old man and when I had to sit him down and tell him what I did bless him I said so I'm doing only fans. And he looks and he's like you selling furniture oh, you don't know what it is. I had to bring his daughter in who works with him. I thought you were selling something. She comes in and she's like no, dad, I'll tell you. When she leaves, I'll tell, I'll fill you in. And then she looks at me. She's like I got you. I understand what you're doing. Ok, good for you, yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:50

We got this. I think, no matter what, it's good to have a good CPA.

Speaker 1: 22:54

That does creative accounting.

Speaker 2: 22:55

Yeah, it's key. Yeah, I write everything off.

Speaker 3: 22:58

Yeah, definitely. Ok, I have a question Can you make as good a money? Because you said some on there maybe have the killer bodies and they maybe don't have the face? Can, because there are people out there that want to do this right, but they don't want to put their face in it.

Speaker 5: 23:12

Yeah, yeah, the faceless is tough. I have a very good friend, a childhood friend, who wanted to start this and go faceless and I told her I would help her any way that I can, but I got to a certain place where I couldn't help her anymore. I told her you're plateauing. There's only so much I can do to advertise you because you don't show your face. I am all about my face. My followers are very confused by this. They like what this whole look, they like similar to me and when your face is cut off, yeah, you have a bang in body and she does Amazing body, but they're in it for the face, they're in it for the connection. That's kind of what I give these people because I am so approachable I suppose Right and I'm so real.

Speaker 4: 23:58

So do they interact with you?

Speaker 5: 24:00

Yeah, oh my gosh, I love my guys, I really do. I have some good guys.

Speaker 3: 24:04

It's like you're dating all these men all over the globe right, and they're all my new girlfriends? Yeah, but you've never met them. I know they're wonderful. Do they send you gifts. Yeah, oh, ok.

Speaker 5: 24:14

Tell me the best gift you got so I have my best of my best ever, ever. His name is Kirk. He'll be fine with me saying that because he doesn't have I won't tell his last name, but he's been with me, I think, for almost three years now and anything I ever want I mention it in passing and it shows up at my door- Shut up, wait, they have your address.

Speaker 5: 24:35

No, OK, Kirk found out my real identity by happenstance, because I was irresponsible one time with something that I posted and he's a smart guy who works in IT, and he was like. It was a couple months later and I was mentioning something about my old job and he's like don't be mad at me.

Speaker 5: 24:55

I know, I know who you are. I'm like I don't want you to be freaked out. I'm never going to show up at your door, but here's what not to do in the future. Don't go post your husband's race number for motocross on your page and I know you're here and what time this rate, Like you can find you guys.

Speaker 2: 25:12

So don't be, doing that.

Speaker 5: 25:14

I'm like OK, and I never did since then, but it's been really convenient, because now he just sends things straight to me. Can you imagine?

Speaker 3: 25:19

how much you could get then. I know, I know, peel box, peel box.

Speaker 5: 25:25

Yeah, so that's what all the other girls do. They have peel boxes in a town next to wherever they live. I have so much stuff sent to me though every week that I don't want to have to go back and forth to a peel box.

Speaker 2: 25:36

I have an Amazon wish list. That's what I was going to say. Isn't there an Amazon wish list? Yeah, so there's an Amazon wish list.

Speaker 5: 25:40

There's a site called Throne that you go on and that's truly anonymous, so you can use that. I'm an Amazon girl, so I'm like, all right, I'll throw it on my wish list. My birthday is next month, so I went on there.

Speaker 1: 25:51

You're going to get a daddy gift. Oh yeah, I go on and I add everything that I don't want to buy for myself.

Speaker 5: 25:55

I got new wine glasses. I got new pillowcases. I really want a Roomba. Put that on there. That'll be at my house next week, I'm sure. Does your husband ever get jealous? He doesn't. He's a really confident guy and our relationship is super solid. He has one rule for me.

Speaker 3: 26:11

He's like this Say you want a new guitar.

Speaker 5: 26:14

Oh, he does. He does. He's like can you start putting things from me? I'm like they know, they know I can't do that. He has. He's like put this on there, Put this. And sometimes he wanted AirPods. So I put AirPods on there. Those showed up and I gave them to him.

Speaker 2: 26:30

Yeah, but you know, my kids want an X, so we all have our own comfortability, so his comfortability.

Speaker 5: 26:39

He always says the rule number one I can never develop feelings for any of these men. Obviously that's a pretty easy rule to follow. It's never happened for me because I'm really good, I'm a wonderful actress and I really do enjoy it. I like talking to these guys. They're interesting.

Speaker 3: 26:56

So this is your full-time job, it's my full-time job. This is all you do.

Speaker 5: 26:59

Oh yeah, I don't have time for anything else it takes up every hour I'm awake, it takes up every hour, I imagine.

Speaker 5: 27:05

You have to. If you're not online working, you're missing out on the money. Other than the passive income part is on your page. You have a subscription, so they subscribe to you, but that's only $10 a month. Ok, if I have 2,000 subscribers at $10 a month, that's a nice little. It's my mortgage, it's my car, that's everything that I need to be paid. But if you want more than that, you get on there and you send out these DMs and you send out videos. You sell videos, you sell customs, you sell video calls, sexting sessions, like there's all these upgrades you can do. So you solicit, you DM them first. Yeah, I mean they can reach out to. I like them to reach out to me first, other than sometimes you have to.

Speaker 3: 27:48

If I was a wife I'd be so pissed. You got a lot of fun, but that's our money, babe. Like, look at me, let's get paid. Look at me, I got to tell you guys a lot of these guys bless their hearts.

Speaker 5: 27:59

I have a lot of the older community, which I prefer. I really love 40 and up. If I had it my way, all of my followers would be 40 and up, and it's really sad, because these guys come to me because they just want to be heard, they just want attention. Their wives pay no attention to them. They haven't touched their dicks in years and OK. So sorry, cheryl, sorry that your husband's coming and paying a girl on the internet. You don't give a shit about your husband. At least I'm giving him some fucking attention, so I don't feel bad for the wives at all in that aspect, and it's not real.

Speaker 5: 28:30

It's not real and they know they're never going to date me, they know.

Speaker 3: 28:33

I marry you. No, this is just. It just turned it up. It's now live porn. Basically, yeah, it's live, yeah, it's just live porn.

Speaker 5: 28:39

And it really it's the closest they can get to. I don't want to blow smoke up my own ass, but to being with someone like me, where I'm like I really do make them feel like I want to be with them too and that I really like spending time communicating with them, because I do. It's really fun. It's just interesting. Everybody has a weird story. Some of the fucking fetishes oh my god, you guys.

Speaker 3: 29:00

So when you're talking to somebody, are you charging by the minutes?

Speaker 5: 29:04

Yeah, usually OK. So my video calls I charge $25 a minute.

Speaker 3: 29:10

Fucking $25 a minute. Yeah, ok, backup. Wow, what are you making per month right now?

Speaker 5: 29:16

It ranges. Ok. Some months are phenomenal. If you have something go viral on Instagram or TikTok, you can go from making pennies to boom. You just made $50,000. Because something went viral and it drove all these people to your page. It's wild. Ok, what's the average? On average, I make $30,000 a month $30,000 a month, yeah. Holy shit, and it's the lowest of all of my friends, all of my girlfriends who are in this industry. They're like $70,000 to $100,000 a month, oh my god.

Speaker 3: 29:48

So when I'm driving down a street and I see all these mansions, I'm always going who the fuck are these people? They're all of these people. You know what?

Speaker 5: 29:56

I mean, well, it sounds glamorous but it's like I lose 50% of it Because only fans keeps 20%, so whatever they make, they keep 20. And then 30% goes to taxes. 30% goes back into market. I market myself a lot on my business so I pay for advertising from other models who are better than me, and Instagram marketing and TikTok marketing. All that stuff goes into it. So I end up keeping about half of it when Tuck OK, see you, and we're hoping you market us. Yeah, and so it all worked out.

Speaker 2: 30:27

We market you, you market it.

Speaker 5: 30:29

Hey, I'll be on your only fans, yeah right, you say that now until I tell you start doing shit. No, no, this bitch is crazy. She might. I have my very, very best gal, kaylee, who I shoot with a lot. She's a pillow princess and we got paid the last time we were together.

Speaker 3: 30:47

Hey, what does that mean?

Speaker 5: 30:48

It means a girl who doesn't want to touch other people. She just wants to lay there and be pleasure.

Speaker 1: 30:53

Pillow princess Lay back on a pillow. I'm going to be that.

Speaker 5: 30:55

I'm going to be a pillow princess.

Speaker 5: 30:57

Yeah, my friend Kaylee and we got an order to do a custom from one of her guys. He paid us $1,100 each to make a custom video together. And he's like OK, I really want you guys to play with each other. And Kaylee's like no, she can play with me, I'm not going to do that. I'm like it's fine, I'll do it, Let me run a bunk. So yeah, for a 15 minute video sold. No, thank you. So sometimes you come into those weird situations and are you really doing this?

Speaker 3: 31:21

And she's like I guess, oh, let's do this, so she'll never do any work.

Speaker 5: 31:25

She's great. Yeah, she just she's beautiful and she has this long blonde flowing hair and these cool tattoos and she just exists and people throw her money.

Speaker 2: 31:34

Oh my gosh. So do you think this has empowered you as a woman? Oh fuck, yeah, I feel great.

Speaker 5: 31:39

I really do. I have not been this happy in my entire life. So it sometimes puts strain on my relationship and my friendships. My relationship because I need to be spending more time one on one, with my husband not working, not my phones in my hand. I'm answering messages while he's talking at me and I didn't hear what he said, and it's just. It's so consuming because again, you have to be on your phone to be making money. So that has been a problem and I just need to limit my time and cut down a little bit. I mean, I have three goddamn phones. You got to have all these phones because I have Snapchat on one phone. I got my premium Snapchat on another. I got my TikTok phone. I got another TikTok phone because they keep banning my devices. It's crazy.

Speaker 2: 32:25

So they actually ban devices.

Speaker 5: 32:27

Yes, I hate it, yeah, and so I just get the burner phones from Amazon. They're $40. And my Snapchats last between seven and 10 business days because I'm soliciting and that's quite not allowed on Snapchat. And they figure it out and they ban me and I send that one back and get a new one. I just go through them like wildfire.

Speaker 3: 32:47

Yeah, you're like one of those people that I'm like fucking report. That's me. Yeah, that's me.

Speaker 5: 32:52

And so that I understand.

Speaker 3: 32:53

Yeah, I do. I must tell you, people are annoying.

Speaker 5: 32:56

I understand this because a lot of the times on my Snap and my Instagram if I ever go through my DMs on Instagram, which is pretty rare but when I'm on my Snapchat, the first question I ask, if someone adds me, how old are you? And I get so many disturbing 14. Oh, I'm 14. I'm 15. I'm like where the fuck is your mother? You just added a sex worker on your Snapchat and your mom doesn't know that. Where's your mom?

Speaker 2: 33:21

Well, it's like they're going through puberty. You know these where's?

Speaker 3: 33:24

your mom and everything's so accessible. Oh yeah.

Speaker 5: 33:26

Well, because they find me on Instagram and I don't post anything. I mean, you can't post anything nasty on Instagram, you just can't. But a lot of these girls get away with a lot more than I even try With. Their legs are spread eagle on Instagram and somehow they don't take it down. But I am deathly afraid of my, these kids that are 17 and 18 and even that I know finding me on Instagram. That is going to be a problem when that happens, knock on wood. It hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 3: 33:54

Yeah, ok, then you wait right, because your kids are going to grow, so I'm not this.

Speaker 5: 33:59

This job has a shelf life. They're a very short shelf life. My kids are 10, 8 and 4. And I have two years left maybe of doing this. I will. I will get it.

Speaker 3: 34:10

I'm so re-invest this money that I'm making right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So get Airbnb's and then you can invite those people to come to your Airbnb.

Speaker 5: 34:19

So we've talked about that with other creators. Yeah, We've said we need to buy properties together that don't discriminate against sex work, Because it's so hard there's a lot of. We're always up front with our Airbnb's and we say we will be shooting here If that's against your policies and terms. You tell us right now, Because I don't want to go through this whole process and 99% excuse me, percent of the time they deny us, I'm like, but I'd rather tell you what we're doing.

Speaker 3: 34:45

Oh, that's a fabulous idea, yeah.

Speaker 5: 34:47

But we get shut down all the time. I'm like we're not. I mean, this is not like come flying everywhere Getting a property, especially in those places like Miami.

Speaker 3: 34:56

Nashville, those types of places where they're going to have the views and the cool shit yeah Getting bent over the balcony in Miami. Yeah, I know, nashville, nashville like freaking a condo and then you're looking over fucking the road, I know.

Speaker 5: 35:11

Fun fact though, you cannot sell public content on OnlyFans. It's against the terms. So there's a lot of little things you can't do on OnlyFans. It's really frustrating.

Speaker 3: 35:20

OK, so wait, so you can't get bent over. And there's the road.

Speaker 5: 35:23

No, but there's fans for that and you can sell that stuff on Snapchat and Telegram and all that other stuff. Just on OnlyFans. They're pretty strict about what you can post. Ok yeah, you can't say the word mommy. A lot of guys call me mommy because I am like a mommy. We call me a mommy dom. So I do humiliate, I'm a humiliatrix, I do mommy domination and it's just these men, full grown men, who want me to treat them like little boys and dominate them as like a mommy presence.

Speaker 5: 35:52

So it never gets like weird, we don't do. We call it, it's completely illegal. But age play is what you call it. When these guys sometimes ask me, can you pretend I'm nine? I'm like, oh my god, no, no, no, you are so disgusting. Block, yeah, but most of the time no. They're like just I'm 48 and I just really need you to say you know, good boy, and stuff like that.

Speaker 2: 36:15

Do you need a spanking oh?

Speaker 5: 36:16

my god, yeah, I got paid 200 bucks today for 15 minutes of sexting with a guy. He's young, he's like 28. And he's like. I just want you to pretend you're watching me masturbate, as my mom Like be peeking into my room and say Austin, stop that right now. 200 bucks 15 minutes, but this is just texting, Sexting, but it was on Snap so I was taking snaps of like Austin put that away.

Speaker 4: 36:44

Oh my god.

Speaker 5: 36:46

Austin, I get so duped, you'll put your baby away right now.

Speaker 3: 36:49

No, I didn't. He's getting harder and harder, mommy, I can't, I can't stop mommy, what do I do?

Speaker 5: 36:56

Oh my god, it's hilarious.

Speaker 3: 36:58

Was he hot?

Speaker 5: 37:00

He's a cute boy. He was a cute boy, but it's like once you know they're weird things, everybody's unattractive.

Speaker 2: 37:07

Everybody's got something real weird so do you? Have any issues in your own personal sex life.

Speaker 5: 37:15

I have the normal issues that, being a 36-year-old with three kids and being tired and being with my husband for 13 years, I have those normal issues. We're like I don't want to fuck with it, I don't want to deal with it. When we started this endeavor, our sex was much more common because I was taking custom orders we call it BG boy girl custom orders and so I was fulfilling it with him, whether it's a blow job custom or a real sex custom, whatever. And that's basically just guys saying I want to see A, B and C happen in this video. And I'm like, OK, I charge $150 a minute for a custom video with my husband in it. Oh god, that's so much money. So, OK, fine, you want a two-minute video of me blowing him. That's easy money. I was going to do it anyway, so that's the thing?

Speaker 3: 38:03

Yeah, but does it take away from the pleasure?

Speaker 4: 38:07

of this intimacy.

Speaker 3: 38:07

It does Well yeah, because if she's making videos and then all of a sudden they just went their time right, it's like fuck, I'm tired. I've blown her dick for a fucking minute.

Speaker 5: 38:17

So that has been a big problem that we have had to navigate.

Speaker 3: 38:21

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 38:22

Separating what the job is versus how we are intimate together alone. I always tell him I differentiate and compartmentalize between my job and my real sex drive. So when I'm on Snap and doing video calls, I'm on OnlyFans sexting, and whether they see me masturbating or not, sometimes it's real, sometimes it's not. But then he's like well, you spent all day doing it for other guys. I need you to get it together and let's do it together. I'm like god, but I'm just exhausted, not sexually exhausted, I'm just actually mentally exhausted and emotionally exhausted from having to talk to people all day.

Speaker 4: 39:02

Well, it's draining because you're doing something that you really may not even want to be doing, but you have to do it to make the money.

Speaker 5: 39:07

It's just so much money.

Speaker 4: 39:08

I can't say no. It'd be stupid, so I get that. It's not that you're tired from the sex, you're tired from the like, it's the back and forth talking no it's like you.

Speaker 3: 39:18

Like Nikki we're going to have a fucking party. When you're bartending You're like no fucking fuck you.

Speaker 1: 39:21

I have bartended all week.

Speaker 4: 39:24

I want to be catered to. Can you bartend? Yeah, this is what happens when I go places to. Can you make me a drink?

Speaker 3: 39:31

No, don't, I'm off the clock. Ok, so I have a question, because you said that he's been cool, like you haven't had any issues. Like, have you had issues with him though?

Speaker 5: 39:42

No, no, I'm so fucking chill about him. He can literally do whatever he wants.

Speaker 3: 39:46

So even when you've met up with these other, people.

Speaker 5: 39:48

And Well, new Kink Unlocked. There is something called a cut queen that I didn't know was a thing. What's that? It's that apparently I like watching my men have sex with other women.

Speaker 3: 39:58

You're already that way. You didn't know, you were that way until you got this industry.

Speaker 5: 40:02

I had no idea. And then I was watching it. I'm like, oh my god, why do I like this so much?

Speaker 1: 40:06

This, is crazy. It turns you on.

Speaker 5: 40:08

Oh, it was wild Fuck. So now I put him up for the jobs. So when we go on collabs I'm like hey, he's available. Is anybody busy? And this is-.

Speaker 3: 40:19

Are they called cut queens Cuck?

Speaker 5: 40:21

Like cuckold. Have you heard the term cuckold? No, so a cuckold, it's a major porn category. Being a cuck is a man who likes to lend his wife out to have sex with. Then we call the other guy the bull. This is stuff I didn't know until I got into it. And then you have to categorize your porn, so you have to do hashtags of what your porn involves. So if you're a cuckold, typically it's a humiliating term. The guy will sit in a corner and will watch his wife be fucked by somebody else, and sometimes it even goes as far as the wife to look at the husband and be like don't you he fucks me so much better than you oh shit Because that's the way the humiliation comes in and that's a huge kink world A man being humiliated, being a cuckold, watching his wife be pleasured by somebody else, so that really people always think oh, a threesome.

Speaker 5: 41:09

Is your husband a cuck? I'm like no, he's always involved. He doesn't sit on the sidelines jacking his little weenus like watching me do stuff with other guys. He's always involved in the things that we do. I'm comfortable with him doing stuff with other women. I don't need to be involved, I can just hang out.

Speaker 3: 41:24

So you're in the corner watching it.

Speaker 5: 41:26

I'm not like this is going crazy, but I do watch. I'll sit and watch. I'll film it for them.

Speaker 3: 41:31

Have you ever used like a dildo while you watch?

Speaker 5: 41:34

No, I'm not a big dildo girl. Okay, you're not. Okay, no, I tell you what there's a genuine like that it's not. Yeah, it's not to the point where I need to rub one out because I'm watching, but it is. It's this like really invigorating crazy thing, because you're not supposed to like it and it's almost like ooh, I know what he's doing to her.

Speaker 2: 41:53

You know, after she fucking hard though we always end together.

Speaker 3: 41:59

Yeah, oh, that's great, that's great.

Speaker 5: 42:02

When we go out in these collabs, we always end the night together and we bang it out and just be like what the fuck is our life? This is wild.

Speaker 3: 42:08

I can't believe it, and I love that you have a shelf life for it, though, because I think I can't do this for very much longer yeah. And for you guys, you know, 10 years down the road you'll go. Do you remember? When Do you remember?

Speaker 5: 42:19

when, when we were young and fucking around while our kids were young and could do whatever we wanted, and we are living a life that like 1% of the population ever gets to see behind closed doors. It's fucking fascinating.

Speaker 3: 42:34

It's unbelievable. My Ken would have done this my late husband.

Speaker 5: 42:37

He would have done this.

Speaker 3: 42:38

Yeah. I know I'm jealous though.

Speaker 4: 42:41

So I don't know me. I'm jealous too. I'm jealous. I'm jealous of the little man I was married to, but maybe some of the ones I dated he was so been about the shit. But yeah, I have to say though, like because I know Clark, her Mr Styles, he's a very handsome man. Yeah, he's a good boy, he has a nice body, he's a very handsome man.

Speaker 3: 43:02

I think I would be fucking jealous then, because you got these banging girls.

Speaker 5: 43:07

Let me tell you what Is my husband obsessed with me? Yes, oh God. Okay, he's obsessed with me. Yeah, you would need that.

Speaker 3: 43:15

Oh my God, like it was obsessed with me too.

Speaker 5: 43:17

Yeah, beat him off with a stick. Obsessed with me, like stop fucking talking to me, stop calling me, stop. He's really obsessed with me.

Speaker 3: 43:25

It's wonderful. No, it's fucking great.

Speaker 5: 43:27

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 43:27

Yeah, when Ken was first obsessed with me, I thought it was too much. I was like what is wrong with you? I was like, no, that's what you would fucking want. Yeah. Like hello, I appreciate that shit. Then I learned to appreciate it and, like you know, it wasn't weird.

Speaker 5: 43:40

Yeah, mr Styles did it the opposite. So he played really, really cool when we were dating. Even when he asked me to marry him, I was like what you like me? I thought you didn't like me that much.

Speaker 2: 43:50

I mean, I know you love me. I've heard this story too.

Speaker 5: 43:52

Like I didn't know that you liked me enough to marry me. What is this? And he's like no, I really love you, let's get married, Like okay. And so it's come with time.

Speaker 5: 44:01

I like that way yeah, he played it really cool and now it's everybody, it's great. He makes it apparent to everybody how much he loves me and anyone who really knows us would know he has no interest in anybody else. Absolutely. It could be any the hottest girl in the world walking in he's. I don't think he has. Maybe he has a thing for Carrie Underwood. They shared a similar birthday but it could be literally she would walk up and he'd be like, honey, let's fuck her, we're like together.

Speaker 5: 44:30

So he's just not that type of guy. Yeah, which is so rare.

Speaker 3: 44:34

I know I had that. I loved that, yeah yeah, she has a great husband too.

Speaker 4: 44:40

Yeah, and she has beautiful children.

Speaker 3: 44:42

Yeah, but that doesn't bring a good point, because you said the shelf life, so because there is this point for you where it's like, fuck, I got to get off and be done with this.

Speaker 5: 44:52

That's right.

Speaker 3: 44:53

I don't want my kids to know.

Speaker 5: 44:55

Corkstiles has to die. We must wipe her from the earth.

Speaker 3: 44:58

How are you going to kill it, knowing it's out there?

Speaker 5: 45:01

though. So, and there's, everything gets leaked. There's a thing called branded scan that you can pay $40 a month and they'll go through and they will wipe any of your leaked content from anywhere you find I love that. Okay, so that's pretty great, but you know it is what it is. Will you miss it? I don't know yet. I don't know, I don't miss the money.

Speaker 2: 45:19

I'll miss the money.

Speaker 3: 45:19

Yeah, you'll miss the money, but that's why you have to reinvest and have another cash flow coming in from that cash flow, I'll miss the attention.

Speaker 5: 45:27

I was a bartender before and I love that because it's you see people, you talk, you get to see people, you get to be social. And then I was a stay at home mom and then I owned a business that I worked from home and only talked to people on the phone.

Speaker 1: 45:40

Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 5: 45:41

And I was just starved of humanity, and that's why I like this, because I get to talk. So she's like I have intimately chasing me around and so I'll just need to do. I'll need to reinvent myself to do something back in the service industry.

Speaker 4: 45:55

so that I can just say what, what would you do? Well, we've got something in the works.

Speaker 5: 46:00

We've got something in the works.

Speaker 1: 46:01

Oh, you start your own business.

Speaker 5: 46:03

Mr Styles has a business plan that he's going to implement soon, like in the next few months. Well, let's talk about this. I don't know if he's ready.

Speaker 4: 46:09

Yeah he's not ready.

Speaker 5: 46:11

He wants to come on and talk about it when it opens.

Speaker 4: 46:13

No, I was going to say, let's you and I talk about it.

Speaker 5: 46:15

Oh, we do.

Speaker 4: 46:16

If it has anything to do with what I think it has to do with, I may be able to help you.

Speaker 5: 46:20

Oh fantastic. I mean, he's been talking about it for a year. So we're trying that's the thing, we're trying to pocket enough money so that we could. We've oh my gosh, we've paid off so many things. It's not that I have a bunch of money in the bank, but I was able to pay off our pool loan, our RV, our pay, our house down. It's made our lives a lot easier. But God, the taxes just kill me. They just kill me. I hate taxes, fuck taxes. It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. So everyone thinks I have all this money. I'm like no, they took it.

Speaker 3: 46:53

And there's no, and there's no way, cause it gets filtered through fucking only fans.

Speaker 5: 46:58

So it's accounted for yeah, and I have myself and my husband on payroll to save money in taxes by having payroll. And then there's this whole other payroll tax that I get hit three times a year with like a $10,000 pay payroll tax bill that I'm like okay, here you go, here's my, here's more of my money that you're taking because I'm paying people.

Speaker 5: 47:17

So just because I need to pay people, you're taking more money. But then even when I get paid from myself, they take money out of that. So it's been taxed now three times by the time it gets to.

Speaker 3: 47:25

No, I'm a fucking hustler. I get it Wild, I got properties and I got a juggle, so I'm not fucking paying taxes it sucks. Yeah, it's really rough. Hey, this has been great conversation, clark Styles, woohoo, and in fact we don't want to stop. So, hey, stay tuned for part two. And yeah, roger that, roger, that, roger, that Roger that.